Are children with #Autism treated poorly in school?



I posted earlier about the little kindergarten boy with #Autism, denied lunch over a billing issue.  The school claims it was an oversight. Is that possible? Sure. Is it likely? I doubt it but I wasn’t there, so I can only speculate.

This got me thinking and I decided that today’s #Autism Discussion should be on this very topic. 

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I’m wondering if you feel that children with #Autism are treated poorly in the school setting? Are they treated differently than their NT peers?  Obviously kids with special needs have to be treated differently in some cases but I’m referring to something like what happened to that little boy in the article.



Are children with #Autism more likely to be treated poorly or mistreated in general, than their NT peers?

What is your experience? Why do you think this happens? What can be done to fix this?



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Jennifer
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Jennifer

This is at the top of my mind today.  Just last night my son was telling me about an incident in his special ed classroom with his main teacher.  Long story short, his teacher bopped him on top of the head with a wooden stick for not reading a word right.  I'm so mad today and have been waiting for myself to cool down before I call the principal.  But I will be watching this post very closely.  As it has been my experience for 3 years now that my son has not been treated properly in the public school… Read more »

Rob Gorski
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@Jennifer you aren't alone. Our two kids that attended public schools were mistreated. Honestly, in Gavin's case it was more like abuse.

Hang in there and for what it's worth, cooling off was a good idea before addressing the problem.. Please keep us posted.

Grace
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Grace

OK.  I have to jump in here.  Full disclaimer: I am a single professional woman, and I know no autistic people and have no kids.  I appreciate your blog and I sympathize very much with the difficulties of special needs families.  However, please do not forget how difficult one special needs kid is for one teacher to control.  Do not blame the teachers and schools if your kid requires a lot of special and extra help.  Your child shouldn't be mainstreamed if the teacher has to spend that much time and effort controlling your child.    I am so tired of… Read more »

Rob Gorski
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@Grace wow… How about some compassion for these kids. I appreciate what you are saying and I respect your opinion. However, the fly in the ointment here is neither the kids or most of the teachers. You need to understand the problem before turning this back around on the special needs families. The problem is that the school systems don't want to spend the money on special needs kids and so they want them in the "least restrictive environment". This means they put kids that need specialized classrooms into the general population and that's not fair to the child or… Read more »

Grace
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Grace

 @lostandtired  @Grace
Rob, thank you for your thoughtful reply.  I agree that there is a difference between purposeful mistreatment and being ill-equipped to deal with autism issues.  The real problem is identifying the best learning environment for your special needs child.  I appreciate how difficult it is to determine that. 

PennyHiggins
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PennyHiggins

It's tough to generalize about the treatment of autistic (or any special need) child in schools. An important factor is whether or not the school has programs to handle these kids. Before our son was diagnosed and placed in a special program, his treatment wasn't very good. He would be suspended every time something went wrong and the teachers and staff couldn't deal with it. I don't fault the teachers or the staff, though some mistakes (significant ones) were made, but the result was that my son was not treated fairly. Since his diagnosis and placement in a special program… Read more »

ChrisCrane
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ChrisCrane

This is why we homeschool, we have gone through,no one following IEP ,OT that was laughable,classwork that was clearly done by the aids,and not the kids,and now with the rules they have you can not  catch them at anything you have to stop by the office ,there are no pop ins so unless your teacher is willing to hit your kid while your watching and If your kid is non -verbal forget it ,they say anything to them ,Do you know in most school districts the problem teachers are shipped to special ed,after 2 years of service they are tenured… Read more »

PennyHiggins
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PennyHiggins

 @ChrisCrane Hi Gloria. I think you meant to refer to Grace, not to me, because I am a teacher (in college) and I do have an autistic son. …and my husband's probably an aspie. I agree with your comments if they're really directed at Grace. Thanks.

ChrisCrane
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ChrisCrane

I am so sorry that I directed that comment to you ,you are a parent,and spouse of someone on the spectrum, so should have a forum here,if people who admit that they are not ,a parent ,spouse,sibling ,friend  or an autistic person themselves they should stay out of these forums unless you want to really learn from all of us ,Don't sit there and judge what you don't know or live .  Gloria
 

Grace
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Grace

 @ChrisCrane
I was not aware that this forum was only for those who experience autism in their lives.  You are not a very welcoming group.  I expect better from special needs parents.  I came here to learn, not to pass judgment.  And neither should any of you. 
 

Greg Bartleman
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Greg Bartleman

I happen to have a child who is PDD-NOS and we have been fortunate in the schools he is in that hasn't been an issue. We are very involved with the school as to his education and how his actions in school affect that and those around him. I would say almost all the teachers and administrators have to be very open and willing to work with him and us so he is successful and not disruptive to the rest of the class. When we first moved to the current district we are in, he was going into 5th grade.… Read more »

Rob Gorski
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@Greg Bartleman very, very well said.

OnyxPanthyr
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OnyxPanthyr

What does "NT" mean?

Rob Gorski
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@Grace well put. You're absolutely correct, at least in my opinion. 🙂

JenniferWhynott
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JenniferWhynott

I think that any special needs child could be treated poorly in the school system. They can be very hard to care for, people get frusterated with their behaviors, and sometimes we all have bad days. That being said, there are many loving and caring individuals who work with these children. They share each success and setback with these kiddos. What worries me more are the kids in  regular classrooms who have special needs and they have fallen through the cracks. These are the ones that suffer from asperger's, ADHD, mental illness, and a whole host of other things and… Read more »

Rob Gorski
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@OnyxPanthyr Neuro Typical. People without autism at generally referred to as Neuro Typical or NT for short.

OnyxPanthyr
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OnyxPanthyr

 @lostandtired  @OnyxPanthyr Ah.  Thank you.  🙂  I must have missed that in your blog.  I frequently have to play catch up over a few days, especially since I'm not really online on the weekends.

OnyxPanthyr
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OnyxPanthyr

 @ChrisCrane Grace raised some valid points.  It is by raising points such as these respectfully and with an open mind that one is able to educate themselves better.  Rob gave a very detailed answer to Grace which, also to me, was very valuable.  If these types of difficult, yet opposing viewpoints don't come up, then how are we to address them in thoughtful discussion and to learn from each other?  That is why I am here, even though I also have no kids and no experience with autism.  That should not exclude me, or Grace, from commenting here.

JacquiP
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JacquiP

I think our kids are treated poorly and the reason being is lack of awareness from teachers and children a like. I think every inclusive schools should have sessions relating to special needs and child regardless of the problem. If children are educated and understand they are very accepting.

Ignorance breeds contempt and this causes do much pain for everyone involved. Education is key. If you know better you do better…

JacquiP
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JacquiP

@Greg Bartleman – you're so on the money… Great post couldn't have said it better myself

JacquiP
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JacquiP

@Grace If you are going to sit there an try to steer this forum in your direction so all eyes are on you please leave. This is not about us – this is about trying to find solutions for our CHILDREN. So if you want to feel full of self importantance and have nothing of value to add to the conversation please find somewhere else to be. Your making an ass of yourself and you just don't get it.

Rob Gorski
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@Grace @ChrisCrane this is my site and anyone and everyone that treats people with respect, are welcome. This is the best way to spread Autism Awareness. @Grace you are always welcome here. 🙂

I think that we just touched on a very sensitive issue. I think that there were good points brought up and I'm glad it was discussed.

I don't think that @Grace meant to come across the way she did at first. Anyways, we're all friends now. 🙂

Batty
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Batty

@Jennifer–(as a former teacher who turned in a PE (former SPED) teacher for encouraging the abuse of a very special needs student and allowing it to take place while he watched)—I suggest that you be very calm when you speak to the principal and make him/her aware that you are ready to call the assault in to the police and to press charges against this teacher.  That should be very clear that you will press charges if you are not satisfied with the response from the school.   If the teacher is willing to bonk your son on his head… Read more »

DownsSideUp
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DownsSideUp

@nosleepintoon @reality_autism Just been researching 'seclusion rooms' on this subject. scratch the surface and you will find shit.

DownsSideUp
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DownsSideUp

@nosleepintoon Oh, and worked out that I was confusing you with @PenningtonG for some inexplicable reason. Sorry guys, have you met?

nosleepintoon
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nosleepintoon

@DownsSideUp We haven't met before but we have now thanks to you! 😛 I have never heard of seclusion rooms but I will have a look now