Holy crap, did that just happen?



This morning was a complete disaster.  Elliott had a massive meltdown this morning and came up with every reason imaginable, not to go to school.

He was freaking out on Lizze pretty hard core. 

I was barely able to get him out the door.  By the time I did manage to get on our way this morning, we were well past being late. 

On the way to school, I may have uncovered the reason for Elliott’s recent reluctance to attend school. 



Apparently, there is a new little boy in his class that struggles.  He gets very frustrated and has meltdowns, very loud meltdowns. I don’t know exactly how aggressive these get but I will be talking to his teacher.

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Whatever is going on, is scaring Elliott to the point that he doesn’t want to go to school. 



My suspicion is that this kid may be triggering a PTSD type of response in Elliott.  It sounds like the loud noise and outbursts are similar to what Gavin did at home for so long.  Hence the PTSD type response. 

If this is indeed the case, I’m not sure what we can do about this. 

I will speak with the school and get more details as to what is actually happening.

In truth, it wouldn’t take much to trigger a PTSD type response from someone struggling with PTSD type symptoms.  I may also be totally wrong and this has nothing to do with anything. 

We see Dr. Patti tonight and I will bring this up with her.


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I know you keep saying Eliot suffer from PTSD as a result of Gavin’s meltdowns, but I don’t think you truly appreciate what type of life-changing event it takes to generate PTSD in a person. The cause for PTSD is commonly defined as: “an event that may involve the threat of death to oneself or to someone else, or violent assault on one’s own or someone else’s physical or sexual integrity, overwhelming the ability of that individual to cope”.  While I’m sure Gavin’s meltdowns were severe (as evidenced by your numerous videos) I don’t recall you ever mentioning that your… Read more »

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@BillyElliot The traumatic event needed to trigger PTSD is relative to the person experiencing the event. If you watched any of the videos of Gavin raging, you would better understand why this was so traumatizing. Gavins rages were very scary and extremely violent and dangerous.

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MeaghanGood

lostandtired My brother Colin abused me horrifically for the first quarter-century of my life. He is one of the worst things I’ve ever had to deal with. Let me emphasize that he was never physically violent, nor did he threaten me outright: it was just verbal abuse. I was stupid, ugly, no one loved me or would ever love me. Oh, and he hacked into my email account when I was 18 and read all the emails and printed out the most personal and compromising ones (like about sex and stuff) and showed them to everybody, which was beyond horrible. I… Read more »

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MeaghanGood lostandtired exactly.  That was a very personal thing you shared and I applaud you for that.  🙂 
You’re absolutely right.  Everyone’s experiences are relative what traumatizing for one may not be for another.  
It’s been suspected I have PTSD from my time as a medic.  The things I experienced or saw, impact me today.  
I’m glad you’re such a fighter.  The world needs you in it:-)

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MeaghanGood

lostandtired MeaghanGood Thanks Rob. 🙂
I think my brother got the worst of it in the end. He’s obviously mentally sick and he’s never gotten any treatment. He’s really smart but he just about failed out of high school and never got any further education. To the best of my knowledge he’s never had a long-term relationship with a woman — and he’s 32. And he’s on his third DUI. He drifts from one menial job to another. He lost one job after he threw a wrench at a coworker during an argument.

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@BillyElliot Well said! Everything is a diagnosis or medical crisis for this family! PTSD is NOT subjective – that really is so messed up to compare what assault/rape victims, soliders, etc have to elliot having to deal with his disabled brothers tantrums. he’s a kid – a sensitive one, but just a kid. Honestly, I think you have Munchausen by proxy syndrome. Or some sort of Hero/God complex.

lostandtired
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ConfusedConcerned  once again you feel the need to post your nonsense.  No one is comparing personal tragedies accept you.  The fact is that everyone experiences things differently.  No one said that Elliott had true, Vietnam flashback type PTSD.   However, he has many of the same symptoms and experiences triggers that elicit responses based on what he experienced in the past.   Everyone responds differently to bad experiences because everyone has a different threshold for what they can can cope with.   You can I could experience the exact same thing and one of us could be traumatized and develop… Read more »

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MeaghanGood

ConfusedConcerned  I’m with Rob here. Go piss up a rope or something.

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while i wouldn’t completely rule out PTSD i would first look at SPD and how it may be playing a role in his anxiety about the other child at school. Is he allowed to wear ear defenders in school, could you ask the teacher to give him a safe place to go to when the other child is having difficulties

lostandtired
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SarahChierico those are very good points.

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I agree with http://www.livefyre.com/profile/13959181/ on having the teacher giving him a safe place and to were he knows he has a safe place to go. Also I agree with the wearing ear protection. I know if I was in that position I would probably have a meltdown to.

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BillyElliot

lostandtired  @ConfusedConcerned  Rob – instead of thinking of censoring, you should listen to the opinions of some of the less conventional supportive posters here.  Not everyone may post cheerleader-style messages, but you can still draw information or perspective from them. While confused concerned could have been a bit more tactful, you should be able to see that your family has more medical diagnoses and doctors than ANYONE.  Everyone is constantly going to doctors, emergency rooms, specialists, and even geneticists.  Why?  Granted, you are dealing with some complex medical issues.  But if you look in from the outside, your family seems… Read more »

lostandtired
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@BillyElliot lostandtired first of all, the commentor in question has a lengthy history of negative comments here.  Never anything positive to say and not productive. There’s nothing to learn from them over than patience.  As far as you opinion  of the medical diagnoses, your untitled to your opinion, but you are far from an expert.   There are tons of families out there that deal with similar things as we do.   My family has a unusually high number of challenges but we don’t force diagnoses on anyone.  We do what is recommended by those who know more than  we do.  If… Read more »

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MeaghanGood

Do you realized ConfusedConcerned is accusing Rob of child abuse, serious abuse that, if true, would be cause to remove all the children from the household and place them in foster care? Munchausens by Proxy parents are seriously mentally ill and narcissistic and, in order to get attention/sympathy for themselves, either deliberately make their children sick, or lie to doctors about their children being sick, and force the children to go through all sorts of unnecessary medical procedures. That is a VERY serious accusation to be getting on with, even if Rob is overreacting about the whole PTSD thing.

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ConfusedConcerned

MeaghanGood I was speaking Hyperbolically about Rob having MBP – HOWEVER, I honestly do think that theres a part of him that gets off on the “struggle” and the DRAMA. Literally every single post is drama. and some of it is self made. or at least made waaaay more dramatic than it needs to me. This post and this entire comment thread was a perfect example and thankfully BillyElliot nailed it on the head. Elliot is NOT suffering from PTSD. And saying that it’s subjective is just incorrect. PTSD is a clinical diagnosis with clinical criteria. Rob just throws out these diagnoses and… Read more »

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ConfusedConcerned  MeaghanGood Confused is a really good screen name for you.  The only thing I have left to say to you is that I hope that you never have to experience a fraction of what we and many other families have to experience.   I couldn’t care less about your ignorance or the opinions they help you erroneously form.  While you are entitled to have them, it doesn’t make them hold any value.   I would hazard to guess that neither you nor BillyElliot are medical professionals or mental health providers. This makes you unqualified to make the statements that you… Read more »