Reaching Across the Aisle

I think many of us will agree with this

 

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    • Kim on May 30, 2017 at 8:09 pm
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    I understand the sentiment that you are trying to convey, but who is the arbiter of what is right? What is right for you may not be what is right for me. Your interests lie in getting necessary services for your family; my interests lie in getting tax breaks for the ridiculous amount of money that I pay each month for decent health and dental coverage. The problem is that those two interests are in conflict with one another. Without my tax money, your services will be cut. If you retain your services, I don’t get my tax cut. So which is right? And before anyone comes along and tells me to shut up about tax cuts, I have shelled out in excess of $60,000 for health expenses since 2014. I don’t come at this from an attitude of privilege. I come at it as someone who has had to find the equivalent of 2 starting salaries in the name of being healthy.

    1. As far as what is right, I would hope commonsense would help to dictate that. If we were truly objective, would we honestly be okay with what is going in with the current administration? Forget Democrats or Republicans, just think about the future of the country, its citizens, and our standing in the world. Think about the future of our kids and whether or not we feel where we are going in a direction that secures their future.

      That’s sorta what I was going for..

      Your totally right about what you are saying. I’m simply looking at this from a very simplified point of view. Will we end up in world War 3, or alienated from the rest of the world?

    2. Funnily enough, most first world countries can afford this, and it works for their citizens. Are there glitches in their systems? Yes, because nothing on the planet is actually perfect. But our health care costs are skyrocketing, Americans pay more than other countries, but oh yeah, we have freedom…to spend ourselves into debt.

      Oh, and my husband and I pay lots of taxes, and are happy to pay more to help others. Now, Kim, it sounds like you are in the upper middle class, with a good income but too heavily taxed? The truly rich and wealthy can afford to pay more taxes. What are they going to miss, a yacht or maybe, an extra home somewhere? And there are wealthy people right now who feel that they are getting away with little to no taxes, and that it is bad.

        • Jenny on June 1, 2017 at 9:21 am
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        I’m sorry, but no one gets to say what others can have or not have in this world. Do you realize those people that own the yachts and other luxury items are the exact people who pay the majority of the taxes that pay for medicaid, medicare and any subsidies people get with the affordable care act?

        Who are you to decide people can pay more taxes or shouldn’t have a yacht or second home?

        And if you know people who feel they don’t pay enough taxes, and they feel bad about it, then they should donate to private charities. IMO private charities run better and distribute more evenly and effectively

        We don’t need more taxes on people, we need less lobbyists and more people doing their share

      1. The system itself is broken. I don’t think we are ever really represented in Washington. Politicians vote the way they want to, because it likely doesn’t impact them like it does us

    • Kim on February 19, 2018 at 11:50 am
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    I understand the sentiment that you are trying to convey, but who is the arbiter of what is right? What is right for you may not be what is right for me. Your interests lie in getting necessary services for your family; my interests lie in getting tax breaks for the ridiculous amount of money that I pay each month for decent health and dental coverage. The problem is that those two interests are in conflict with one another. Without my tax money, your services will be cut. If you retain your services, I don’t get my tax cut. So which is right? And before anyone comes along and tells me to shut up about tax cuts, I have shelled out in excess of $60,000 for health expenses since 2014. I don’t come at this from an attitude of privilege. I come at it as someone who has had to find the equivalent of 2 starting salaries in the name of being healthy.

    1. As far as what is right, I would hope commonsense would help to dictate that. If we were truly objective, would we honestly be okay with what is going in with the current administration? Forget Democrats or Republicans, just think about the future of the country, its citizens, and our standing in the world. Think about the future of our kids and whether or not we feel where we are going in a direction that secures their future.

      That’s sorta what I was going for..

      Your totally right about what you are saying. I’m simply looking at this from a very simplified point of view. Will we end up in world War 3, or alienated from the rest of the world?

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      • bwiren on February 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm
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      Funnily enough, most first world countries can afford this, and it works for their citizens. Are there glitches in their systems? Yes, because nothing on the planet is actually perfect. But our health care costs are skyrocketing, Americans pay more than other countries, but oh yeah, we have freedom…to spend ourselves into debt.

      Oh, and my husband and I pay lots of taxes, and are happy to pay more to help others. Now, Kim, it sounds like you are in the upper middle class, with a good income but too heavily taxed? The truly rich and wealthy can afford to pay more taxes. What are they going to miss, a yacht or maybe, an extra home somewhere? And there are wealthy people right now who feel that they are getting away with little to no taxes, and that it is bad.

        • Jenny on February 19, 2018 at 2:09 pm
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        I’m sorry, but no one gets to say what others can have or not have in this world. Do you realize those people that own the yachts and other luxury items are the exact people who pay the majority of the taxes that pay for medicaid, medicare and any subsidies people get with the affordable care act?

        Who are you to decide people can pay more taxes or shouldn’t have a yacht or second home?

        And if you know people who feel they don’t pay enough taxes, and they feel bad about it, then they should donate to private charities. IMO private charities run better and distribute more evenly and effectively

        We don’t need more taxes on people, we need less lobbyists and more people doing their share

      1. The system itself is broken. I don’t think we are ever really represented in Washington. Politicians vote the way they want to, because it likely doesn’t impact them like it does us

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