A very important Elliott update 



This week has been focused on the kid at school who’s bullying Elliott. We spoke to his teachers and the principal but if today was any indication of how this is going to play out, we’re going to have a problem. 

While at Dr. Pattie’s tonight, we spoke with Elliott about this and learned that there were more issues with this kid at school today. 



Apparently, aside from smacking Elliott on the back thoughout the day, he’s also throwing pencils at him during class as well. Elliott was hit in the leg today and when he told his teachers, they basically said they didn’t see it happen, so they can’t do anything about it.  

Was Elliott hurt by the pencil? No he wasn’t,  but is that really the point? 

Fuck no it isn’t!

This kid is throwing sharpened pencils at Elliott and while the pencil lays on the ground where it landed after bouncing off of Elliott, they didn’t do anything cause they didn’t see it happen. Just because he wasn’t hurt this time doesn’t mean that he won’t get hit in the face next time.. This has to stop.        (continued – – – >) 

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Kim Gebhardt
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As frustrating as it is, I do understand the teacher’s point on this; they really do need to see the ‘bullying’ happening before they can deal with it. You have mentioned before that Elliott is somewhat of a tattler, so that might be playing into the teacher wanting to see it for themselves as well. You said that there were other kids being targeted, why not get together with those parents and approach the school together as a united front? I agree that the behavior needs to be addressed. If this jackass of a kid is allowed to get away… Read more »
JR
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I’m not so sure that the teacher actually has to see the “bullying” as it’s happening in order to take measures to ensure that it doesn’t happen in the future. If the kid was beating the crap out of other kids at school, but out of sight of the staff, would the school just say “Sorry, we can’t do anything because we didn’t see it?” Of course not. They would react because they would be relying on reports of other kids about what happened. Sure, it would be more dramatic if a kid could point to bruises, injuries, etc., but… Read more »
JR
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And with all due respect to Kim and the idea of strength in numbers, I don’t think this is a situation that calls for the collective onslaught of parents in order to be rectified. Rob should be able to get the school to get this under control by himself. I know I would much rather speak for myself on behalf of my kid to get things done, particularly of this sort of nature, than to rely on the proverbial “angry mob” to do it.

Kim Gebhardt
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The reason I mentioned a united front with other parents was because if more than one child is having problems with the bad seed, then it becomes less of a ‘he said/she said’ type of situation. Rob mentioned the other day that Elliott wasn’t the only target.

JR
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I understand what you’re saying, but why bother going through the whole thing of potentially publicly shaming this “bully” (who, for all we know, is less of a bully but instead just another kid struggling with his own issues, of which his parents are fully aware and are desperately trying to work on), when it can be resolved on an individual basis? More importantly for Rob, his primary concern is Elliott, not the student body at large. Rob’s individual approach is more likely to result in a solution for Elliott. What if all it takes is moving Elliott’s seat away… Read more »
Rob Gorski
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You’re right in the sense that the bullying isn’t severe but this is really impacting Elliott on an emotional level. Sometimes the bruising is visible on the outside. We’re working getting Elliott to stand up for himself but that’s not easy. Elliott will stand up for his friends when they’re being bullied by this kid but not for himself.

Empowerment is a good direction to go in…

JR
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Although painful to go through, these real life situations present the absolute best opportunities to teach self-advocacy (just to put a positive spin on the situation). And just to be clear, I wasn’t minimizing the bullying in the least…as I said above “there’s potential emotional damage going on.” Best of luck.

Kim Gebhardt
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I don’t think this child should be publicly shamed at all. I agree with you on having Elliott attempt to take care of this himself and also just moving his seat, but the behavior of the offending child still needs to be addressed. I would hate to see the new kid sitting in Elliott’s seat end up with pencils thrown at him throughout the day. My thoughts on having more than one set of parents approach the school was because they may not take one child seriously, but maybe they will take 2 or 3 seriously. You raise a good… Read more »
Rob Gorski
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From stopbullying.org

There are three types of bullying:

Verbal bullying is saying or writing mean things. Verbal bullying includes:
Teasing
Name-calling
Inappropriate sexual comments
Taunting
Threatening to cause harm
Social bullying, sometimes referred to as relational bullying, involves hurting someone’s reputation or relationships. Social bullying includes:
Leaving someone out on purpose
Telling other children not to be friends with someone
Spreading rumors about someone
Embarrassing someone in public
Physical bullying involves hurting a person’s body or possessions. Physical bullying includes:
Hitting/kicking/pinching
Spitting
Tripping/pushing
Taking or breaking someone’s things
Making mean or rude hand gestures

Braden
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‘Leaving someone out on purpose’ is bullying now?

SMH

Rob Gorski
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I don’t make the rules…..

Kim Gebhardt
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Right? Is it just me or is that ridiculous? I get that no one wants their child’s feelings to be hurt, but isn’t a lot of this all part of growing up?

Rob Gorski
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I totally agree. I mean to an extent anyway. Kids need to learn to deal with situations where perhaps they are being teased or picked last. I get that. Once someone makes physical contact in a manner that is or could cause harm, that’s crossing the line. That’s where we are right now. We just don’t want it to get worse.

If it were a matter of his feelings being hurt, this would be handled differently

Kim Gebhardt
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I wasn’t speaking to Elliott’s situation in particular, mostly the bullying list as a whole.

Rob Gorski
Guest

I know that. No worries. I was just agreeing and defining the difference… ☺

Rob Gorski
Guest

Kim, I agree with you. If multiple kids are reporting similar problems independently of each other, that should be enough for action to be taken.

Rob Gorski
Guest

I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the teachers feel they have to witness this beta ior first hand in order to deal with it in some meaningful way. That’s the frustrating part. Plus when Elliott goes to them for help, he’s being brushed off and that’s not okay.

Rob Gorski
Guest

That’s an interesting point Kim. A united front would put pressure on the school to actually deal with the problem. I don’t think this is a bad kid but perhaps he has impulse control issues, which frankly wouldn’t surprise me. Either way, the problem remains and it needs to be dealt with. I also agree that if left unchecked, it’s likely to get worse.

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